Verisign on YADIS etc.

David Recordon david at
Wed Nov 9 21:30:09 PST 2005

I think you've summed up the basics pretty well.  Once I better
understand XMLDSig, or if someone else gets already then please it beat
me to it, I plan to modify section 6 of the wiki to include an example
type for it as well.  I'm also hoping to publicize a presentation I put
together tonight which both explains YADIS and how signed pings fit in.

This is also a group of people who are very much interested in the
keeping everything simple for both technical and adoption reasons.  All
in all, was a very promising meeting with a great group of people this
morning and I hope we'll see a strong proposal coming out of it!  If
nothing else, it is really great seeing all of the interest by various
parties in YADIS, once we figured out how to explain it right.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:yadis-bounces at] On Behalf Of Ernst Johannes
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:19 PM
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Subject: Verisign on YADIS etc.

You may be interested in this extensive blog post by Mike Graves of
Verisign on YADIS.

Some of my thoughts in response are here:

I think there is a belief among the "reform movement" at Verisign (that
Mike belongs to) that things like YADIS would be an excellent foundation
on top of which a range of high-value features can be implemented by the
entire community in an open manner -- for example, signed blog pings to
cut down on spam and splogs. (using public key distribution through
YADIS-enabled URLs as we've done it in LID for some time).

Their post is not a one-time event but part of a quite promising
development: Versign has already put together a multi-vendor working
group on the subject that includes many  of of the high-volume blogging
tool hosts/vendors -- who really seemed to like the idea of using the
YADIS foundation to enable signed pings in a meeting Brad, David and
myself participated in this morning, because YADIS is simple, it scales,
it can be implemented incrementally and it's an open initiative that can
let many flowers bloom. And of course because it opens up a lot of new
possibilities in an incremental manner. (At least those are the reasons
I heard being mentioned.)

It seems to be the expectation of everybody that more will come out of
this publicly quite soon, with the initial sweet spot being the
intersection of YADIS and projects such as FeedMesh. We'll keep you guys
in the loop -- I expect some additional requirements for YADIS to come
out of this group, but that's why we have YADIS, so people can
participate and influence...

David, Brad: anything to add?

Johannes Ernst

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