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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the link, hadn’t seen it
before though there aren’t a lot of details on the site. It seems
like they could use both OpenID and Yadis to accomplish their goal though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>User enters <a
href="mailto:username@example.com">username@example.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fetches Yadis discovery document from
example.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Does OpenID request to example.com’s
OpenID endpoint which verifies their email address via the authentication
method they are developing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>--David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
yadis-bounces@lists.danga.com [mailto:yadis-bounces@lists.danga.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kaliya *<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 25, 2006
10:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Martin Atkins<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> yadis@lists.danga.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: identity as a URL
instead of an email? hrmmmm</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am not sure if it has
been posted on this list yet but at etech I met Alex Jacobs who developed <a
href="http://www.pass.net/">http://www.pass.net/</a><br>
<br>
"We already use email addresses to identify users and we already use mail
domains to authenticate them (via confirmation emails). We should use that
infrastructure so users only ever log in on their mail domain server and sites
can use those logins to authenticate those users when they visit."......<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/23/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Martin
Atkins</span></b> <<a href="mailto:mart@degeneration.co.uk">mart@degeneration.co.uk</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Harry Heymann wrote:<br>
><br>
> So why make my identity a URL? I know there are technical
reasons for<br>
> this, but ultimately I don't really care about them in the face of the<br>
> kind of user confusion this will create. <br>
><br>
<br>
So far, no-one has come up with a workable solution for an OpenID-like<br>
system that uses email addresses for identity. Do you have one?<br>
<br>
The most common issue with this is that people *don't want* to tell <br>
others their email address just to access some site, because email is<br>
tricky to reliably filter should someone start sending you loads of crap<br>
you don't want.<br>
<br>
I think in the long term the XRID people would like their own crazy <br>
brand of URI to become the identifier. XRID can be a layer atop URLs, so<br>
if they have success with that then a future version of OpenID (or, more<br>
likely, YADIS) will be able to use these instead of URLs. For now, we're <br>
stuck with URLs.<br>
<br>
This is irrelevant most of the time because users don't need to know<br>
that what they're entering is a URL. LiveJournal users just get told to<br>
put in "<a href="http://username.livejournal.com">
username.livejournal.com</a>"; they don't need to know nor care that<br>
this is the URL to their journal.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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