[PATCH] minor cleanups

Brad Fitzpatrick brad at danga.com
Sun Apr 15 21:17:24 UTC 2007


Steven,

I looked over the diffs.  Not scary, thanks!  :)  Thanks especially for
doc/threads.txt.

Go ahead and merge the multithreaded branch into trunk, once you sync up
with the few things in trunk that multithreaded doesn't have.

Hopefully this will make your maintenance easier, having it in trunk.

- Brad



On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Steven Grimm wrote:

> Brad Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Assuming the code is battle tested & stable, the only remaining questions
> > are around the invasiveness of the code, and long-term maintenance cost,
> > compared to the advantages.  Debugging and hacking on a single-threaded
> > app is a breeze compared to debugging buggy locking.
> >
>
> I did my best to minimize the invasiveness of the changes. Obviously I'd
> love it if others could offer their opinions. All the thread support
> goes away (i.e., you don't pay any overhead at all) if you don't add
> "--enable-threads" to your ./configure command line; the code is
> structured such that all the thread stuff is inside #ifdef blocks that
> revert to the single-threaded behavior if a particular macro isn't defined.
>
> However, that does not negate the point about maintenance cost;
> obviously it is possible to introduce a bug that doesn't manifest at all
> in single-threaded mode but kills the process when it's compiled with
> thread support. To that end, I tried to make the locking as simple as
> possible. Again, if people have feedback on that I'd love to hear it.
>
> > And yes, multi-core is common, but there's another easier answer:  run 'n'
> > processes per machine, which is what everybody does now.  Yes, it's
> > currently a manual process, but it could be automated.  That also is some
> > more work, though.
> >
>
> And it isn't without its downsides, either. We used to run that way. But
> it actually doesn't give you as much capacity per machine as running one
> multithreaded process, for a few reasons:
>
> * If you have objects in rarely used size classes you'll be more likely
> to waste memory on them because you'll possibly get one slab of that
> class for each instance, rather than just a single slab that they can
> all share.
> * If you're using persistent TCP connections, you will eat memory for
> kernel (and application) I/O buffers for the extra connections, reducing
> the amount of memory you can devote to your cache.
> * Large batch "get" requests will have to be split among all the
> processes, which is much less CPU-efficient than sending the entire
> batch to one process, which means you will max out your CPUs at fewer
> requests per second.
>
> And of course managing multiple processes per machine adds a bit of
> system administration complexity, though that'll vary depending on
> people's setups.
>
> > So I guess it's time to start looking at diffs between trunk and
> > multithreaded and see if it's small/simple enough to merge.  (and assuming
> > it's still a compile-time option, to complete disable threading...)
> >
>
> Yep, it is! That was a big goal of my changes, since I knew not everyone
> would need or even want threading.
>
> -Steve
>
>


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