brainstorming on naming

Granqvist, Hans hgranqvist at verisign.com
Thu Dec 15 22:45:29 UTC 2005


Sorry all, didn't mean to break the brainstorming flow with negativism .
. . 
My apologies.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: yadis-bounces at lists.danga.com 
> [mailto:yadis-bounces at lists.danga.com] On Behalf Of Granqvist, Hans
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:46 AM
> To: Brian Ellin; Johannes Ernst
> Cc: YADIS List
> Subject: RE: brainstorming on naming
> 
> "disco" is both a file format and a helper app developed by 
> Microsoft in their WSSE web services stack for service 
> discovery.  Most likely this is a challenge to using any term 
> including "disco".
> 
> Hans
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yadis-bounces at lists.danga.com
> > [mailto:yadis-bounces at lists.danga.com] On Behalf Of Brian Ellin
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:42 PM
> > To: Johannes Ernst
> > Cc: YADIS List
> > Subject: Re: brainstorming on naming
> > 
> > Jonannes and list,
> > 
> > To clarify, the "disco" portion of OpenDisco refers to 
> "Discovery".  
> > As in service/capability discovery.
> > 
> > >From the yadis.org frontpage: "YADIS is an capability
> > discovery system"
> > 
> > Given your list of ideas below, OpenDisco seems like a very natural 
> > choice.  I do see the connection between disco and discotheque, but 
> > really don't think it will alienate any users or attract the wrong 
> > crowd.  Do discussions about SOAP attract people with a 
> desire to get 
> > clean?  I doubt it.
> > 
> > My two cents,
> > 
> > Brian Ellin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 12:01 -0800, Johannes Ernst wrote:
> > > I think here are some terms that are "close" what I think 
> we should 
> > > express -- maybe somebody has a bright idea combining 
> some of this 
> > > with some of what has been said before.
> > > 
> > > Open
> > > Decentralized
> > > User-controlled
> > > Extensible
> > > very, very simple
> > > URL-based
> > > REST-ful
> > > Secure
> > > Meta
> > > Capabilities
> > > Service
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't think it necessarily has to say anything about, or
> > have much
> > > affiliation with any of the following:
> > > 
> > > Identity (it's broader than that)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Personally, I also think that the thing we are developing
> > here is in
> > > the same category as SMTP, LDAP etc. etc. -- things that
> > techies care
> > > about in order to make things work, but that end users do 
> not care 
> > > about, do not understand and don't really need to be exposed to 
> > > (except in a configuration dialog perhaps). So I'd rather 
> prefer a 
> > > name that sounds more like those techie acronyms, than
> > something that
> > > sounds like it is intended to be blasted all over the front
> > pages of
> > > every web page.
> > > 
> > > But most importantly, I don't really care much about the
> > name except
> > > that I don't want to be embarrassed saying it in front a crowd of 
> > > developers *or* business / money people.
> > > 
> > > ["OpenDISCO" is a borderline case with respect to the latter -- 
> > > imagine you walk by a conference session, don't have an
> > idea what it
> > > is all about and you hear something about "the disco is open"?
> > > Somehow that conference session might end up with the 
> wrong walk-in 
> > > audience ... especially to European ears, "disco" means
> > "discotheque"
> > > aka "dance/nightclub", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco ]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Johannes Ernst
> > >   http://netmesh.info/jernst
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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