OpenID is not a trust system. But... Google kinda is.

Martin Atkins mart at
Fri May 20 11:54:15 PDT 2005

Brad Fitzpatrick wrote:
> OpenID consumers validate somebody owns a URL, right?
> But how can LiveJournal trust that person isn't a spammer who set up his
> own identity server just for spamming?  OpenID doesn't attempt to solve
> this.
> We keep talking about a hypothetical trust system build atop OpenID, FOAF,
> XFN, etc.  I'm sure somebody will build it.
> But in the meantime, it already exists, and its name is Google PageRank.
> So it's possible, and easy.  We just need Google to bless it and say
> bloggers can use it for anti-comment-spam measures.
> Any Googlers want to pass this request along?

Hmm. From my (admittedly limited) understanding of PageRank, you have no 
PageRank at all unless someone links to you. This could make it quite 
hard for a new blogger to actually get anywhere. It's not too hard to 
get on Google, though, I admit. LiveJournal users already all link to 
each other...

One thought that springs to mind is that if people are going to start 
linking to these identity URLs there'll be a lot of OpenID PageRank 
incest. I guess that's what that wacky rel="..." value I forget is for, 

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