Renaming Heraldry

Granqvist, Hans hgranqvist at
Fri Jun 30 18:07:57 UTC 2006

"ibid" means "in the same place" (ibid is short for 'ibidem')
"idem" means "the same"

So it seems idem makes more etymologic sense for Heraldry,
should that IMO excellent term need replacement . . .   


> -----Original Message-----
> From: yadis-bounces at 
> [mailto:yadis-bounces at] On Behalf Of Martin Atkins
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:57 AM
> To: yadis at
> Cc: general at
> Subject: Re: Renaming Heraldry
> Recordon, David wrote:
> > From conversations at ApacheCon, and gentle nudging at
>  > dinner last night from Danese Cooper, it sounds like  > we 
> should come up with a better name.  The current  > thought is 
> "Ibid".  So it works in "ID" and has a  > good geeky literary 
> reference.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> As someone who finds most of the Apache project names 
> confusing and hard to remember (with the notable exception of 
> the excellently-named "Apache HTTP Server") I'm all for 
> something that actually says what it is.
> I must admit that until now I had never heard the word 
> "Ibid". Perhaps that makes me a philistine, but that doesn't 
> change the fact that this word holds little meaning for me, 
> and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Can it at least have "ID" 
> or "Identity" in it?

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