identity as a URL instead of an email? hrmmmm

Kaliya * kaliya at
Sun Mar 26 06:06:05 UTC 2006

I am not sure if it has been posted on this list yet but at etech I met Alex
Jacobs who developed

"We already use email addresses to identify users and we already use mail
domains to authenticate them (via confirmation emails). We should use that
infrastructure so users only ever log in on their mail domain server and
sites can use those logins to authenticate those users when they

On 3/23/06, Martin Atkins <mart at> wrote:
> Harry Heymann wrote:
> >
> > So why make my identity a URL?  I know there are technical reasons for
> > this, but ultimately I don't really care about them in the face of the
> > kind of user confusion this will create.
> >
> So far, no-one has come up with a workable solution for an OpenID-like
> system that uses email addresses for identity. Do you have one?
> The most common issue with this is that people *don't want* to tell
> others their email address just to access some site, because email is
> tricky to reliably filter should someone start sending you loads of crap
> you don't want.
> I think in the long term the XRID people would like their own crazy
> brand of URI to become the identifier. XRID can be a layer atop URLs, so
> if they have success with that then a future version of OpenID (or, more
> likely, YADIS) will be able to use these instead of URLs. For now, we're
> stuck with URLs.
> This is irrelevant most of the time because users don't need to know
> that what they're entering is a URL. LiveJournal users just get told to
> put in ""; they don't need to know nor care that
> this is the URL to their journal.
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