user@domain identity form musings
M. David Peterson
xmlhacker at gmail.com
Fri May 27 08:05:02 PDT 2005
Hi Martin,
It seems the simple solution then would be to regex '@' and replace with '.'
so user at domain.com would become user.domain.com
<http://user.domain.com>before being passed to the server...
Adding a bit more to this... Actually, I think this presents an interesting
opportunity. It just so happened that OpenID.name <http://OpenID.name> was
still available so I've registered it and will happily accept a request for
transfer from Brad or donate it to whomever he suggests will be the holding
body (livejournal?) for the OpenID entities. What this seems to present
quite nicely a way to both create a network for each implementation of
OpenID such that setting up a server and verifying its validity would then
give you the ability to request
whatever.openid.name<http://whatever.openid.name>and have the zone
file updated with the correct IP or domain to redirect the
requests too. By doing this a simple data base of implementers can be
created, offending members easily tagged (e.g. those who blatantly abuse the
system to take on an appereance of someone else or for spam related
purposes, etc.. at the root of each *.openid.name could live a
status.xmlAtom or RSS feed making it quite easy to maintain system
wide stats using
REALLY SIMPLE TECHNOLOGIES....
Brad, if you woul like to guide me to the proper person I would need to
expect a request to transfer from I will prepare this and "sign" the papers
as soon as I get them. If, for now, you want me to hold tught, thats fine
too.. I guess that would give us all a good chance to build implementation
for this into all the servers for testing.
Cheers :)
<M:D/>
Obviously the ideas could be extended quite substantially...
Either way, I do like the '@' idea... for the masses to embrace new ideas
they need to feel like its at least somewhat familiar and using the @ email
directive, even if just for show, seems to me like it could drive it home
for a lot of people.
I actually have some more announcements regarding the implemenation of the
OpenID system on the .NET platform and then using this as the primary
identity scheme for the ChannelXML project -- a community effort to
decentralize the web. When I finally have had a chance to get things to the
point they need later today Iwill update the list and takes things from
there...
On 5/27/05, Martin Atkins <mart at degeneration.co.uk> wrote:
>
> loune wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > As I mentioned before, the draft specs for the ID system I was working
> > on, instead of using URL, it uses IDs similar to emails. I've just
> > realised that such a format could also be used with with open ID. A URI
> > could contain the form http://user@domain/ and as long as the consumer
> > passes this form to the ID server with the is_identity param, the ID
> > server can take it and then do whatever verification with it.
> >
> > So the end result is that multiple people can share a website and still
> > be identified individually.
>
> I suppose that will work, though since the user/password URL format is
> not technically allowed for HTTP I expect that it will not work for
> everyone's HTTP libraries and browsers. Internet Explorer doesn't allow
> this since Windows XP Service Pack 2, I believe.
>
> I would be concerned that some consumers would be unable to accept such
> URLs, and even once they have the links they generate will be unusable
> for many web browsers.
>
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M. David Peterson <aka:xmlhacker/>
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