Simplifying OpenId

[Dick Hardt]

I don't see the path for how YADIS provides a "clean foundation" for  
building user-controlled identity. Would you elaborate on that Johannes?

I get the protocol discovery, but still think that <link rel= > works  
fine for that.

btw: if the value of rel was a URI, then the name space issue of what  
the <link> tag is all about is dealt with.

On 6-Jan-06, at 4:49 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:

> Exactly, why do something cleanly if a hack is just half as good? ;-)
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> But for those on this list who are still puzzled by this question:  
> because YADIS provides a clean foundation to build on top of.  
> Authentication against a website -- like OpenID does today and LID  
> and friends -- is probably somewhere in the area of 1% of what the  
> identity visionaries (Google "identity gang") are envisioning that  
> user-controlled identity will turn into:
>
> Disintermediating eBay would be closer to the 100% than the 0%, and  
> that's only one of the examples.
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> And one can't hope to build the 100% if one starts kludging after  
> 1% of the work is done. So that's why we all agree that YADIS is  
> needed.
>
> (Sorry if you think that I'm continually stating and restating the  
> very very obvious, I'm an earthling after all, dear Ford Prefect)
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> On Jan 6, 2006, at 16:37, Martin Atkins wrote:
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>> Johannes Ernst wrote:
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>>> Let's define yourself a new YADIS capability ... and you are   
>>> instantly
>>> able to participate in the same framework. That doesn't  mean  
>>> that your
>>> new SSO can instantly be used to log into LiveJournal  -- but it  
>>> means
>>> it opens up a defined path for Relying Parties to  recognize  
>>> "your" URLs
>>> and do something smart with it...
>>>
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>> Of course, the same could be said for adding an element to the  
>> HTML HEAD:
>> <link rel="alexid.server" href="http://www.not-an-openid- 
>> server.com/">
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>> Why do we need YADIS, again? :)
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>> (I'm just joking, by the way!)
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> Johannes Ernst
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