Simplifying OpenId

[Johannes Ernst]

So I take it, once we successfully communicated the answer to this  
question to you, you'll be joining YADIS and help make it a success?

On Jan 8, 2006, at 11:35, Dick Hardt wrote:

> I don't see the path for how YADIS provides a "clean foundation"  
> for building user-controlled identity. Would you elaborate on that  
> Johannes?
>
> I get the protocol discovery, but still think that <link rel= >  
> works fine for that.
>
> btw: if the value of rel was a URI, then the name space issue of  
> what the <link> tag is all about is dealt with.
>
> On 6-Jan-06, at 4:49 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:
>
>> Exactly, why do something cleanly if a hack is just half as good? ;-)
>>
>> But for those on this list who are still puzzled by this question:  
>> because YADIS provides a clean foundation to build on top of.  
>> Authentication against a website -- like OpenID does today and LID  
>> and friends -- is probably somewhere in the area of 1% of what the  
>> identity visionaries (Google "identity gang") are envisioning that  
>> user-controlled identity will turn into:
>>
>> Disintermediating eBay would be closer to the 100% than the 0%,  
>> and that's only one of the examples.
>>
>> And one can't hope to build the 100% if one starts kludging after  
>> 1% of the work is done. So that's why we all agree that YADIS is  
>> needed.
>>
>> (Sorry if you think that I'm continually stating and restating the  
>> very very obvious, I'm an earthling after all, dear Ford Prefect)
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2006, at 16:37, Martin Atkins wrote:
>>
>>> Johannes Ernst wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let's define yourself a new YADIS capability ... and you are   
>>>> instantly
>>>> able to participate in the same framework. That doesn't  mean  
>>>> that your
>>>> new SSO can instantly be used to log into LiveJournal  -- but it  
>>>> means
>>>> it opens up a defined path for Relying Parties to  recognize  
>>>> "your" URLs
>>>> and do something smart with it...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, the same could be said for adding an element to the  
>>> HTML HEAD:
>>> <link rel="alexid.server" href="http://www.not-an-openid- 
>>> server.com/">
>>>
>>> Why do we need YADIS, again? :)
>>>
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>>> (I'm just joking, by the way!)
>>
>> Johannes Ernst
>> NetMesh Inc.
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Johannes Ernst
NetMesh Inc.

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